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	<title>Comments on: Store clerk charged with failing to help child locked in van</title>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>""The point only some are catching are the couple were in parking lot with their car near and see the kid in van they should have called 911 their cell. They left the kid to go have BBB store page to try and find the owner of the van. That is horrible if you people think they are such heros they should have just called themselves or broke the window.""

That is right, and they find it easier to point the finger at everyone besides the people that really could have done something.  I would have asked the store manager to see if she could find the mother, but how in the world did they know where the mother was at so quickly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;The point only some are catching are the couple were in parking lot with their car near and see the kid in van they should have called 911 their cell. They left the kid to go have BBB store page to try and find the owner of the van. That is horrible if you people think they are such heros they should have just called themselves or broke the window.&#8221;"</p>
<p>That is right, and they find it easier to point the finger at everyone besides the people that really could have done something.  I would have asked the store manager to see if she could find the mother, but how in the world did they know where the mother was at so quickly?</p>
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		<title>By: gust</title>
		<link>http://bluegrassbeat.bloginky.com/2008/09/12/police-charge-store-clerk-who-wouldnt-help-child-locked-in-hot-car/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>gust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm an employee of a bed bath and beyond and it is definitely not store policy to stay out of situations in the parking lot. On one occasion this HOT summer, a customer informed us of a dog locked in a car and we immeadiately called mall security and got the dog out of the car within 15 minutes. This manager clearly is just trying to save their own ass. should be fired. All it takes is a page and a phone call, not that difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an employee of a bed bath and beyond and it is definitely not store policy to stay out of situations in the parking lot. On one occasion this HOT summer, a customer informed us of a dog locked in a car and we immeadiately called mall security and got the dog out of the car within 15 minutes. This manager clearly is just trying to save their own ass. should be fired. All it takes is a page and a phone call, not that difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Bed, Bath &#38; Beyond manager pleads not guilty at On the Beat in the Bluegrass</title>
		<link>http://bluegrassbeat.bloginky.com/2008/09/12/police-charge-store-clerk-who-wouldnt-help-child-locked-in-hot-car/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>Bed, Bath &#38; Beyond manager pleads not guilty at On the Beat in the Bluegrass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://bluegrassbeat.bloginky.com/2008/09/12/police-charge-store-clerk-who-wouldnt-help-child-locked-in-hot-car/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point only some are catching are the couple were in parking lot with their car near and see the kid in van they should have  called 911 their cell.  They left the kid to go have BBB store page to try and find the owner of the van.  That is horrible if you people think they are such heros they should have just called themselves or broke the window.  If you people realize in spur of the moment running a store on a Saturday customers get panicked about car,kids,strange people and dangers in parking lot.  You get involved in that stuff outside the building all customers inside would complain about customer service!!!!  I have been with 3 retailers over seventeen years and people always want to pass the problem on not take action themselves.  That couple was not wanting to deal with it head on so tried to pass problem off to BBB.  Manager should not be blamed for stupid customer and couple who really did not want to face the problem and get phone out of LOCKED car.  Hit button on remote idiot and get phone out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point only some are catching are the couple were in parking lot with their car near and see the kid in van they should have  called 911 their cell.  They left the kid to go have BBB store page to try and find the owner of the van.  That is horrible if you people think they are such heros they should have just called themselves or broke the window.  If you people realize in spur of the moment running a store on a Saturday customers get panicked about car,kids,strange people and dangers in parking lot.  You get involved in that stuff outside the building all customers inside would complain about customer service!!!!  I have been with 3 retailers over seventeen years and people always want to pass the problem on not take action themselves.  That couple was not wanting to deal with it head on so tried to pass problem off to BBB.  Manager should not be blamed for stupid customer and couple who really did not want to face the problem and get phone out of LOCKED car.  Hit button on remote idiot and get phone out.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://bluegrassbeat.bloginky.com/2008/09/12/police-charge-store-clerk-who-wouldnt-help-child-locked-in-hot-car/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, fine. For all you people screaming for her head in bloodlust in this case, let's stop and use the same judgment elsewhere shall we?

The Belchers should be charged as well.  the fastest and quickest way to get emergency medical response would have been to take the 2 seconds to open their car door and dial 911 themselves.

EVERY single person in the parking lot at that time. If you were present at the time this was happening and you didn't break your own neck to get to a pay phone, cell phone or even a convenient bullhorn to get the entire world involved, then you should seemingly be charged in the same way the manager was.

The "other" employee who referred them to the manager. But why stop there?  why not every employee in the store?  ooh, and not only the employees but the customers too. i'm sure at least one person heard the talk of what was going on and could have used a cell phone or a pay phone or the obligatory bullhorn referenced earlier.

ooh, and maybe there was a cop close by who heard the call but didn't respond due to giving a traffic citation at the time.  Maybe if they had run back to their car and gone blazing toward the BB&#38;B parking lot, they could have saved this child even more agony?  why wasn't every cop in town responding to this call regardless of where they were since they had knowledge of it as well?

do you see how ridiculous most of that sounds?  simple fact of the matter is: The couple who found the child were parked RIGHT NEXT TO the van and should have unlocked their door (even without remote keyless entry that's, what?  3 seconds?) and dialed 911 on their own cell phone first.  if you're gonna charge the manager for not stumbling over herself to break out the window, the same "courtesy" should be shown to the couple that left the van and went inside instead of calling it in themselves.

regardless of how right or wrong the manager was, if the couple had followed their own "civic duty" then the manager wouldn't have even been involved until AFTER the cops showed up or the window was broken anyway.  it's like a bank robbery happening and you, as one of the people present, not going against what the robbers are telling you to do and calling 911 yourself. or even worse, the manager wasn't even assured that this wasn't a falsehood.  it'd be like sitting in the donut shop across the street from that bank and not calling 911 even tho you had no idea the crime was being committed.

grow up people.  place the blame where it should be...on the mother.  leave the poor manager out of this fight...its some cop or political freak looking to score publicity points for being a "model citizen" and acting like it's their civic duty to make an example out of her.  why do you think they tell rape victims in New York to yell out "Fire!" instead of rape?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, fine. For all you people screaming for her head in bloodlust in this case, let&#8217;s stop and use the same judgment elsewhere shall we?</p>
<p>The Belchers should be charged as well.  the fastest and quickest way to get emergency medical response would have been to take the 2 seconds to open their car door and dial 911 themselves.</p>
<p>EVERY single person in the parking lot at that time. If you were present at the time this was happening and you didn&#8217;t break your own neck to get to a pay phone, cell phone or even a convenient bullhorn to get the entire world involved, then you should seemingly be charged in the same way the manager was.</p>
<p>The &#8220;other&#8221; employee who referred them to the manager. But why stop there?  why not every employee in the store?  ooh, and not only the employees but the customers too. i&#8217;m sure at least one person heard the talk of what was going on and could have used a cell phone or a pay phone or the obligatory bullhorn referenced earlier.</p>
<p>ooh, and maybe there was a cop close by who heard the call but didn&#8217;t respond due to giving a traffic citation at the time.  Maybe if they had run back to their car and gone blazing toward the BB&amp;B parking lot, they could have saved this child even more agony?  why wasn&#8217;t every cop in town responding to this call regardless of where they were since they had knowledge of it as well?</p>
<p>do you see how ridiculous most of that sounds?  simple fact of the matter is: The couple who found the child were parked RIGHT NEXT TO the van and should have unlocked their door (even without remote keyless entry that&#8217;s, what?  3 seconds?) and dialed 911 on their own cell phone first.  if you&#8217;re gonna charge the manager for not stumbling over herself to break out the window, the same &#8220;courtesy&#8221; should be shown to the couple that left the van and went inside instead of calling it in themselves.</p>
<p>regardless of how right or wrong the manager was, if the couple had followed their own &#8220;civic duty&#8221; then the manager wouldn&#8217;t have even been involved until AFTER the cops showed up or the window was broken anyway.  it&#8217;s like a bank robbery happening and you, as one of the people present, not going against what the robbers are telling you to do and calling 911 yourself. or even worse, the manager wasn&#8217;t even assured that this wasn&#8217;t a falsehood.  it&#8217;d be like sitting in the donut shop across the street from that bank and not calling 911 even tho you had no idea the crime was being committed.</p>
<p>grow up people.  place the blame where it should be&#8230;on the mother.  leave the poor manager out of this fight&#8230;its some cop or political freak looking to score publicity points for being a &#8220;model citizen&#8221; and acting like it&#8217;s their civic duty to make an example out of her.  why do you think they tell rape victims in New York to yell out &#8220;Fire!&#8221; instead of rape?</p>
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		<title>By: BOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... essentially, the next time you spank your kids in the parking lot for acting like little hellions the store should be required to call the police.  I personally like people keeping their nose out of my business.  This is an extreme situation...

However for most day to day... someone falls and breaks a leg, someone smashes your car with a cart... its all the same.  The store is not responsible neither are its employees.

She was scr@wed either way she went.  For all she knew this couple was attempting to kidnap this kid or involved in some criminal activity.  

This may be a sad world but her job is what puts a roof over her head and her kid's heads, if she has them.  Her job is what pays their bills and feeds them.  Not everyone is an attorney as we all seem to be acting like here and would know store policy might not be in line with the law.

Like it or not... we all do what is best for us and ours.  Its a sad situation that his MOTHER left him in the car. Its the mother's fault and nobody but the mother's.  If the Belchers were SOOO concerned the vehicle'd have had one less window really damned quick.

Its all well and good to play holier than thou... course most BBB shoppers are women that don't actually have to work for a living... not really possible to put yourself in a working woman's shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; essentially, the next time you spank your kids in the parking lot for acting like little hellions the store should be required to call the police.  I personally like people keeping their nose out of my business.  This is an extreme situation&#8230;</p>
<p>However for most day to day&#8230; someone falls and breaks a leg, someone smashes your car with a cart&#8230; its all the same.  The store is not responsible neither are its employees.</p>
<p>She was scr@wed either way she went.  For all she knew this couple was attempting to kidnap this kid or involved in some criminal activity.  </p>
<p>This may be a sad world but her job is what puts a roof over her head and her kid&#8217;s heads, if she has them.  Her job is what pays their bills and feeds them.  Not everyone is an attorney as we all seem to be acting like here and would know store policy might not be in line with the law.</p>
<p>Like it or not&#8230; we all do what is best for us and ours.  Its a sad situation that his MOTHER left him in the car. Its the mother&#8217;s fault and nobody but the mother&#8217;s.  If the Belchers were SOOO concerned the vehicle&#8217;d have had one less window really damned quick.</p>
<p>Its all well and good to play holier than thou&#8230; course most BBB shoppers are women that don&#8217;t actually have to work for a living&#8230; not really possible to put yourself in a working woman&#8217;s shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman should be fired for not using her common sense. Apparently, she would have rather kept her job and let a child die than to take her chances on losing her job. This is not rocket science and it has nothing to do with being a "good samaritan". It has to do with having the sense to know between right and wrong and the woman should have been bright enough to figure out that BB&#38;B was not going to fire her for calling the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman should be fired for not using her common sense. Apparently, she would have rather kept her job and let a child die than to take her chances on losing her job. This is not rocket science and it has nothing to do with being a &#8220;good samaritan&#8221;. It has to do with having the sense to know between right and wrong and the woman should have been bright enough to figure out that BB&amp;B was not going to fire her for calling the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to this statement......
"If the employee choose to follow a criminal directive, then she alone is personally liable for the consequence. Bed Bath and Beyond may be held separately liable for conspiracy to not report [and I hope that they are], but any liability that Bed Bath and Beyond may face is separate and distinct from Ms. Miller’s offense.

Frankly I think that she should serve the full 90 days."
In addition,  The company must pay the maximum penalty for this since the Hamburg store echoed the same "Store Policy" last year concering the dog locked in the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to this statement&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8220;If the employee choose to follow a criminal directive, then she alone is personally liable for the consequence. Bed Bath and Beyond may be held separately liable for conspiracy to not report [and I hope that they are], but any liability that Bed Bath and Beyond may face is separate and distinct from Ms. Miller’s offense.</p>
<p>Frankly I think that she should serve the full 90 days.&#8221;<br />
In addition,  The company must pay the maximum penalty for this since the Hamburg store echoed the same &#8220;Store Policy&#8221; last year concering the dog locked in the car.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>""The Belchers EVENTUALLY used their own cell phone to call police. That is what they should have done in the first place.""

""Lexington police Officer Tommy Puckett said Thursday that Elizabeth A. Miller, 34, of Richmond was issued a summons for duty to report dependency, neglect and abuse, a Class B misdemeanor that carries a maximum sentence of 90 days and a maximum fine of $250. A court date for Miller has not been set. Miller could not be reached for comment.""

A hot story, emotional laden, emotions calling for uprise in all.  What if this was a set up?  Sad thing to say because the baby probably was getting really hot by the time someone came to find it.  Calling to the plight of abused children for more funding?  I don't know?  I think it is sad if that is the real point here.  I may be wrong?  Testing laws and making it known that they will be enforced?  I don't know?  Not everyone that says that what they do is for the interest of the child or in the best interest of the child has the child in mind at all, most people do.  Hard to look at it this way?  This should be interesting to follow up on, I hope you do. Just a different perspective, not a judgement statement at all, I don't really know it just seems strange to me.  

They had a cell phone, didn't call, knew what store the mom was in?, then asked the manager for help which was refused, she has been charged, there is no court date for her?  One never knows about stuff like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;The Belchers EVENTUALLY used their own cell phone to call police. That is what they should have done in the first place.&#8221;"</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Lexington police Officer Tommy Puckett said Thursday that Elizabeth A. Miller, 34, of Richmond was issued a summons for duty to report dependency, neglect and abuse, a Class B misdemeanor that carries a maximum sentence of 90 days and a maximum fine of $250. A court date for Miller has not been set. Miller could not be reached for comment.&#8221;"</p>
<p>A hot story, emotional laden, emotions calling for uprise in all.  What if this was a set up?  Sad thing to say because the baby probably was getting really hot by the time someone came to find it.  Calling to the plight of abused children for more funding?  I don&#8217;t know?  I think it is sad if that is the real point here.  I may be wrong?  Testing laws and making it known that they will be enforced?  I don&#8217;t know?  Not everyone that says that what they do is for the interest of the child or in the best interest of the child has the child in mind at all, most people do.  Hard to look at it this way?  This should be interesting to follow up on, I hope you do. Just a different perspective, not a judgement statement at all, I don&#8217;t really know it just seems strange to me.  </p>
<p>They had a cell phone, didn&#8217;t call, knew what store the mom was in?, then asked the manager for help which was refused, she has been charged, there is no court date for her?  One never knows about stuff like this?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so happy this lady has been charged.  I think she needs to lose her job for this.  Maybe now she has learned a lesson when someone ask for help she will help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so happy this lady has been charged.  I think she needs to lose her job for this.  Maybe now she has learned a lesson when someone ask for help she will help.</p>
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